tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6310226120878180051.post8451322346401577114..comments2024-01-29T13:28:31.757-08:00Comments on The Turtle Path: Back to Back Long RunsPamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17695365862543446730noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6310226120878180051.post-84123801034536592072012-04-15T16:28:07.555-07:002012-04-15T16:28:07.555-07:00Thank you for this post - I have never followed th...Thank you for this post - I have never followed the logic of back-to-back "Learning to run tired"<br /><br />I live in the "Stress" then "Recover" ... repeat world. Give me one 6+ hour run and then let me recover.<br /><br />I tend to run hard-easy repeat. If I need 2 easy days great. There are rare instances that I run back-to-back hard days, but because I have a life event that would dictate either 3 easy days in a row or doing back-to-back ... I never look at these as a training plus.<br /><br />Have a great Worlds - Go Team USA!<br /><br />Michael HenzeRunning with MTPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07818038152767108506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6310226120878180051.post-46360465782365083812012-04-12T22:22:01.602-07:002012-04-12T22:22:01.602-07:00Pam, your reasoning seems very sound to me. Given ...Pam, your reasoning seems very sound to me. Given that a rigorous research study (with a back-to-back group and a single-long-run group, matched for age, PRs, training history, etc.) is unlikely to be done anytime soon, I think you're unlikely to get much additional insight beyond what you already have. In the last couple of years of my ultra career, my #1 rule was, "Don't do training that makes you miserable, no matter how appropriate it might seem otherwise."crowtherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01636268417511507679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6310226120878180051.post-12783401154238107572012-04-09T20:06:13.251-07:002012-04-09T20:06:13.251-07:00You are super impressive Pam for the fact that you...You are super impressive Pam for the fact that you are a physician, mom AND high level ultra runner! Interesting read as I tend to be 'pro' back to back long runs but even I find them tough to fit in (with no pets let alone kids and a husband!), so also interesting to read Bryon's comments. If I forget before - all the very best for you and Team USA/ Oregon at Worlds!Ellie Greenwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05053246362407725539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6310226120878180051.post-23716310836511655632012-04-09T11:48:48.261-07:002012-04-09T11:48:48.261-07:00Addendum: I just checked my log from the first hal...Addendum: I just checked my log from the first half of last year and I didn't run anything that could possibly be considered a back-to-back before last year's Western States 100 and ran 19:24, my fastest ever 100. In fact, I only ran 20 or more miles 7 times with just one more run 16 miles or longer.Bryon Powellhttp://www.irunfar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6310226120878180051.post-65981718238769251202012-04-09T11:45:09.136-07:002012-04-09T11:45:09.136-07:00I think the "need" for back-to-backs is ...I think the "need" for back-to-backs is a load of... well, I don't think they're at all necessary.<br /><br />If I ever do back-to-backs it's incidental to being in some sort of inspired situation such as visiting an awesome locale or hanging out with friends. When I do back-to-backs, I'm more conscious of restraining myself from doing too much than of trying to run while tired.Bryon Powellhttp://www.irunfar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6310226120878180051.post-87541268325270879932012-04-09T06:09:43.557-07:002012-04-09T06:09:43.557-07:00I think those are valuable when training for the f...I think those are valuable when training for the first 100 (although I only did one back-to-back for the first, ha, go figure, but plenty for 3rd). Once you had done a 100, and a few 50's, that second run looses a lot of credibility. I don't do those anymore either. That, and the reasons you mentioned plus Texas living:)Olgahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493291972954387932noreply@blogger.com